So you wound up with a situation, the banks were following the rules. They were following the rules and they did not have to mark those securities to market. We run the nation's largest mortgage REIT. We have 2 billion dollars in securities, and 90 percent rate-hedged. It couldn't have happened to us. But because the banks face no consequences with the held-to-maturity category, they decide to save some money and not put any hedges in place. That's irresponsible, but it is the rule book that the OCC [Office of the Comptroller of the Currency] and the government, the Treasury and the Fed oversaw, and they didn't even stress test these banks if rates rose.
~ Barry Sternlicht, CNBC interview, 1:25 mark, March 23, 2023
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